Tremendously thought-provoking as usual. Thanks, Kate.
I saw the Mirren/Reynolds film very recently as it was recommended to me by a friend. It was good! I saw the Malkovich film "Klimt" in the cinema when it was released. My favourite scene is the one where he is working with gold leaf and a jealous paramour storms out of the room after an argument. 0.48 in this trailer 😆
How did I not know there was a biopic of Klimt starring John Malkovich?! Weekend viewing officially sorted! (And wow, the actor who plays Schiele looks *just* like him.)
Just wanted to write a quick comment about your inclusion of the amazing Austrian video Stairway to Klimt. Setting this aside for a proper listen tomorrow.
Fascinating listen, thank you for sharing. While I'm happy with, and grateful for, my upbringing, I do often wish I'd had more exposure to the arts from a young age. It really wasn't until college that that world opened up to me (including creative writing). My freshman year, I took an art history course and a multimedia course, simply to fulfill graduation requirements, and I was, for lack of a better word at the moment, floored. I still wish that money weren't such an obstacle then, because it sure would've been great to explore those interests more in-depth. The overwhelming feeling I had instead was that I had to complete college quickly so as to mitigate student loan debt as much as possible.
Thanks for the great comment, Garrett. So very insightful to also link art education with money (more generally...money at a school...money available to a university or older student...money for leisure time...). I also took my first art history class freshman year, thinking it was a one off, and ended up doing a double major with English. I was completely captivated. I guess I always knew I wanted to be a teacher, so I didn't worry about the job prospects. :) However, living in Basel, I've met some people with very interesting jobs in the art world (due to Art Basel and the museums).
Thanks for listening. I'm also still learning a ton about art all the time! It's endless, isn't it?
It really is endless! I'm in the camp of college should be free for everyone. I also fear that in my lifetime that won't be something available here in the U.S. But wouldn't it be great if even that first year or two were free? That way, 18 and 19 year olds are free to actually explore and find the path for them within institutions of higher learning? I'm sure that this or something like this has been proposed by someone far smarter than I haha, it just dawned on me while reflecting back on that experience.
Fascinating and thought-provoking, Kate. Thanks so much for all the effort you put into these.
Pleased to hear of the mention of Murakami (of course). My mind was thinking of Killing Commendatore before you mentioned it, so I'm glad that got some air time. I enjoyed that novel a lot (of course 😄).
You know, I'm ashamed to say I've never read Moby Dick. I'm actually considering it as my next read. I've read the opening chapter a few times and I do love the prose, plus I enjoyed the snippets you read out here. I've been eyeing up the annotated Penguin version. I read their annotated H.P. Lovecraft series many years ago and thoroughly enjoyed all the footnotes and thoughts scattered throughout the text.
The Klimt stuff is great to hear about and click through to here. I'd already done a little Googling when he'd cropped up in your novel, but this extra depth was much appreciated.
Yeah, that Murakami text in particular is such an interesting look at visual arts, but I think it's also applicable to writer-artists. I guess the focus is on portraiture and self-portraiture, so perhaps in the way we write people we know into stories or write memoir/autofiction. Need to think about it!
You will love MD when you get to it one day! I agree, Penguin has great annotations. Mine is Norton Critical, also very good. I do think it's worth checking out those notes and was lucky to have the "Melville professor" share his wisdom with us as well (in a very open-ended, Socratic sort of way).
PS your closing questions raise a lot of thoughts on things I'd never even considered in my own fiction!
I'm onto the fourth Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe right now, but back in the first or second book there's a little section where the protagonist is in a library area that has a lot of (fictional) paintings and one in particular is described at quite some length. It actually added some extra context to the story because it was (if I recall) about the moon and the view from the moon, which, in Gene's wonderful style, only became apparent as you started to interpret what was actually being described.
Tremendously thought-provoking as usual. Thanks, Kate.
I saw the Mirren/Reynolds film very recently as it was recommended to me by a friend. It was good! I saw the Malkovich film "Klimt" in the cinema when it was released. My favourite scene is the one where he is working with gold leaf and a jealous paramour storms out of the room after an argument. 0.48 in this trailer 😆
https://youtu.be/_hPdN2QBTeY?si=YKZRDCseancnG95R
That’s a great scene! Funny and aesthetically pleasing. :)
Klimt has a lot of film worthy layers. Thanks Jules!
How did I not know there was a biopic of Klimt starring John Malkovich?! Weekend viewing officially sorted! (And wow, the actor who plays Schiele looks *just* like him.)
You're so brave to see a 5.1 IMDB rated film 🤣 Sometimes those are my favorites though!
I don't known anything about Kinski except for this Schiele performance. Hopefully he is able to get work after the role! ;-)
Two reviews for you to consider before you commit:
Me: "Malkovich is in it, so it's great."
Husband: "That's three hours of my life I'll never get back."
Wikipedia says it's 131 minutes so it obviously felt longer to him! 😂
🤣🤣
Haha! You'd be surprised how much schlock I'm able to withstand as long as the fin de siècle aesthetic is on point (and John Malkovich is involved).
We await your review with anticipation!
Just wanted to write a quick comment about your inclusion of the amazing Austrian video Stairway to Klimt. Setting this aside for a proper listen tomorrow.
Sure!
I can understand ein bisschen 😅
Fascinating listen, thank you for sharing. While I'm happy with, and grateful for, my upbringing, I do often wish I'd had more exposure to the arts from a young age. It really wasn't until college that that world opened up to me (including creative writing). My freshman year, I took an art history course and a multimedia course, simply to fulfill graduation requirements, and I was, for lack of a better word at the moment, floored. I still wish that money weren't such an obstacle then, because it sure would've been great to explore those interests more in-depth. The overwhelming feeling I had instead was that I had to complete college quickly so as to mitigate student loan debt as much as possible.
Alas, my education continues!
Hope you're having a great start to the week!
Thanks for the great comment, Garrett. So very insightful to also link art education with money (more generally...money at a school...money available to a university or older student...money for leisure time...). I also took my first art history class freshman year, thinking it was a one off, and ended up doing a double major with English. I was completely captivated. I guess I always knew I wanted to be a teacher, so I didn't worry about the job prospects. :) However, living in Basel, I've met some people with very interesting jobs in the art world (due to Art Basel and the museums).
Thanks for listening. I'm also still learning a ton about art all the time! It's endless, isn't it?
It really is endless! I'm in the camp of college should be free for everyone. I also fear that in my lifetime that won't be something available here in the U.S. But wouldn't it be great if even that first year or two were free? That way, 18 and 19 year olds are free to actually explore and find the path for them within institutions of higher learning? I'm sure that this or something like this has been proposed by someone far smarter than I haha, it just dawned on me while reflecting back on that experience.
I’m in that camp, too! It was like that when I lived in Austria. Many other places in Europe, too. Such an equaliser. Ah Bernie’s dream.
Fascinating and thought-provoking, Kate. Thanks so much for all the effort you put into these.
Pleased to hear of the mention of Murakami (of course). My mind was thinking of Killing Commendatore before you mentioned it, so I'm glad that got some air time. I enjoyed that novel a lot (of course 😄).
You know, I'm ashamed to say I've never read Moby Dick. I'm actually considering it as my next read. I've read the opening chapter a few times and I do love the prose, plus I enjoyed the snippets you read out here. I've been eyeing up the annotated Penguin version. I read their annotated H.P. Lovecraft series many years ago and thoroughly enjoyed all the footnotes and thoughts scattered throughout the text.
The Klimt stuff is great to hear about and click through to here. I'd already done a little Googling when he'd cropped up in your novel, but this extra depth was much appreciated.
Thanks Nathan!
Yeah, that Murakami text in particular is such an interesting look at visual arts, but I think it's also applicable to writer-artists. I guess the focus is on portraiture and self-portraiture, so perhaps in the way we write people we know into stories or write memoir/autofiction. Need to think about it!
You will love MD when you get to it one day! I agree, Penguin has great annotations. Mine is Norton Critical, also very good. I do think it's worth checking out those notes and was lucky to have the "Melville professor" share his wisdom with us as well (in a very open-ended, Socratic sort of way).
PS your closing questions raise a lot of thoughts on things I'd never even considered in my own fiction!
I'm onto the fourth Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe right now, but back in the first or second book there's a little section where the protagonist is in a library area that has a lot of (fictional) paintings and one in particular is described at quite some length. It actually added some extra context to the story because it was (if I recall) about the moon and the view from the moon, which, in Gene's wonderful style, only became apparent as you started to interpret what was actually being described.
And I have to read Wolfe! Never have.
Thanks - hope it makes its way into one of your stories. :)
Literary science fantasy at its best.